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Another Pipeline Profits Horror Story

February 16, 2007

This was posted on The Warrior Forum by user SCM:
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Well after seeing this thread I thought I would get my 2 cents in as well…

I bought in probably 2 minutes after the site went live in order to get Frank Kern’s email bonus as it was limited to the first 200 members…only to find out later they gave it to everyone who joined. Just a bunch of marketing hype…Strike 1

The “server crash” was no crash at all…my perspective as to what happened is as follows…during my checkout process (2 minutes into the launch) “they realized” their money back guarantee said 365 days (obviously part of the original sales letter for the initial launch with Stomper Members back in November)and they had to take their page down…edit the money back guarantee to 30 days (supposedly because their “merchant account said so”) and then upload the “newly revised page. The site basically froze on me as I was registering for the members forum. I did not receive any confirmation email with anything from them other than a receipt email. Only after I sent several support ticket requests over several days (with no reply) did I find their phone # on the original receipt email and was able to get them to send me the correct url for the members area as well as emails from Pipeline Profits letting me know what was going on.

I did see the 365 day MBG…I did buy with that in mind and I was upset afterwards when I saw in their forum that it is now only a 30 day MBG…Strike 2

During my phone conversation with whoever was answering the phone that day I asked when should I expect to receive the Pipeline Profits package. I was told 10 to 15 business days…I asked her why that wasn’t pointed out in the sales letter? No reply…Breaking News…during the coaching call on February the 7th they announced the Pipeline Profits packages would be shipped sometime this coming week..the week of February the 12th. Well you don’t have to be a rocket scientist to realize that this whole “shipping of the product and MBG” were designed to not give you a chance to look it over.

The lauch was on January 18th…they ship the product to you on February 12th if you are lucky via UPS ground…you receive it on February 16th (a Friday)if you are lucky…the day before your 30day MBG expires….funny how this all works…isn’t it? Strike 3

I wouldn’t want to believe that Pipeline Profits would purposely bait us with a 365 day MBG and then quietly switch it to 30 days…I wouldn’t want to believe that we would be baited with the promise of 20 cent co-reg leads (which don’t exist) to give the little guy the illusion he or she can succeed (I mean give them $1,800 to $2,100 depending on the payment plan)…I wouldn’t want to believe that IM Gurus would endorse this program if it wasn’t all we were told it would be…(but being each guru would receive close to $1,000 for each person who signed up from their list)…well sorry to say…I think they all would do and did do all of the above.

I don’t think the little guy or the new guy should touch this program at all. This program is designed for the internet marketer who has their own product and has real stats and a real history of what his product’s sales are….and has a sizeable bank account to finance the co-reg leads that are going to be 40 cents and higher depending on the market.

Well, that is my 2 cents!

Oh, I almost forgot I am an online merchant and I just had a chargeback come against my merchant account a few weeks ago. The credit card processer’s position is not to give you time to respond before they take the money out of your account…the money comes out first and only then are you, the merchant, even notified…then you can respond in order to “try” and get the money back in your account.

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Pipeline Profits Final Update?

February 5, 2007

Just wanted to update and say that I got my refund. Unless I get updates from members of the PPS system this will probably be my last update. I am still interested in seeing how other people faired, and hopefully some made real money.

Mike

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Quick Pipeline Profits Update

January 28, 2007


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I checked my credit card today, I signed up for the 3 payments @$685, they charged my card $735. This just seems to get worse and worse. I will be calling my credit card tomorrow morning to do a chargeback if they have not refunded me already.

Man oh man, buyer beware with these big launches, it seems they pay quite well to those JV’s doing the promotion and most of them do not actually use the system or know how the real launch will be handled, it is all about the mighty dollar over offering a quality product/service experience.

Thanks for reading,

Mike

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Pipeline Profits Launch Botched

January 26, 2007


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So I signed up for PipelineProfits with the best of intentions. The sales letter stated a 364 Day Return Policy, It took them 3 days to activate my account, and when I get in I find out the return policy is now 30 days. So a thread in there forum was begun about the lack of attention from the big guys Buck and Brock (they did not participate in the forums for a good 2-3 days after my account was active). The concerns ranged from the change in Return Policy, to the lack of support from Buck and Brock and the the Print Material not going out for atleast another 10-15 days, meaning out of a new 30 day return policy we have approximatly 5-10 days to see if there system works. I participated in this forum conversation thinking I was doing a good thing helping them sort out there problems and hopefully getting some help on what it is they are teaching.

Today I attempted to login to watch some more videos as the material overall is really quite good, though feels a tad incomplete (why I was jonesing for course material in the first place) and I find my account has been terminated. So I submit a help ticket in the morning asking if there is a problem with the system or has my account been closed down. After 8 hours of no reply I create a new account and submit a new support ticket asking to please tell me if i am terminated or not and if I do not hear back I will do a reverse on my credit card. 4 hours later I get an email from Buck that since I am so unhappy they are going to issue me a refund. Below is our email correspondance.

>Hi Michael,
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>It’s come to my attention that you are unhappy with Pipeline Profits.
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>I’m very sorry to hear that. We’ve been working very hard to make this unique program available and truly believe Pipeline Profits is >the pre-eminent education in Co-registration Success.
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>I have requested that our staff issue you an immediate refund. Your refund should appear on your bank statement within the next 3-5 >business days.
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>Thanks for giving us a try and I wish you the very best of luck!
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>Sincerely,
>Buck Rizvi

They did not make an attempt to explain what was going on or try to remedy the problem in any way. Below is my response

>Hello Buck,
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>I was not the only one in the forum questioning some things about the system. Like the 365 day policy being changed to 30 days, >and the course material not arriving until 20 days in. The videos are all good and I enjoyed and benefited from them, what I wanted >to see were the checklists, and the whole step by step course material.
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>Today I go to login my account (edited account username out), and It says my account does not exist.
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>So right now i am very unhappy that the launch was botched so bad in so many ways, but I would like to try the system as I believe >in what you guys were showing us.
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>Thanks,
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>Michael

Right now the ball is in there court. If anyone else is having problems please digg this or comment this blog with your story, or link this to your blog/site. I will keep this updated if they bother to reply back to me.

Thanks,

Mike

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